Run Leaders / Chuck's Boston Experience

Nasties - Sunday Morning Run Leaders

During the summer I am looking for 8-10 people who are willing to lead 2 long runs. When I say "lead", that does not mean that you have to be the fastest person out there, it just means that you plan the course, location and starting time, and then show up that morning with maps and/or easy directions.   Location and starting time are up to you (I would suggest 7 a.m. in August!), but here are the approximate distances that we are looking for:

June:  8-10 miles

July: 10-12 miles

August: 12- 14 miles

This consistency will give us a great base to build into a fall 1/2 or full marathon.  Also, a weekly long run is vital no matter what distance you are racing.

Post a comment with your email address if you want to be a Sunday morning run leader, and I will be contacting you guys within a week or so to pick dates.  Please post a comment even if you talked to me last night.  If we get enough volunteers I would love to have 2 leaders per week!

Boston Marathon

For those of you who missed Hargrove's blinding neon yellow shirt, Chuck ran the Boston marathon.  He has documented his experience below.  Enjoy!

The 113th annual Boston Marathon was held April 20, 2009. This sporting event started in 1897, the year following the first modern Olympic Games. Participants must qualify for this race with times depending on age and gender.  In my case a 3:30 or better marathon was required within eighteen months preceding race. A 3:25 at December 2007 Huntsville Rocket City Marathon would earn my spot in the historic 2009 Massachusetts marathon.

For me the 2009 Boston race was a final running achievement.  In high school and college I had five running goals. Four pertained to interscholastic competition.  Through hard work, excellent coaching and motivated, driven teammates those goals were met.  Goal number five was the Boston Marathon.

December 1982 I qualified under the then Boston open standard 2:50.  As a college student-athlete our 1983 track season would host its national championships one month after Boston. Considering typical student financial limitations, priority was given to college teammates and partial scholarship. Alas I would miss 1983 Boston.  I would qualify again soon, or so I assumed.

May 28, 1983 I did not finish our NAIA national championship marathon.  Weather was hot; I would not score in event.  I had a ticket to next day’s Indianapolis 500.  Driving a Chevrolet Chevette from Charleston WV to Indianapolis was not the luxury one would expect. This marathon DNF (did not finish) would play an important role on my return home.

Fall 1983 we had another successful college cross country season but signs of burnout were showing. Eventually I would accelerate my studies and graduate a semester early.  I would not run another marathon.

Late 2003 I began running again.  Four years later I got my Boston qualifier.  April 2009 I would visit New England for the first time.  After a few days of sightseeing, then dinner with some Nashville runners and a Nashville friend attending Boston University, race day arrived.

Traditional race day is Patriots’ Day, celebrated third Monday of April.  This marathon is well executed and managed.  Course is point to point meaning course is a line between Hopkinton and Boston.  Shuttle buses take runners to a parking lot only yards from starting line. Volunteers on buses then collect running gear which competitors can claim after race in downtown Boston.

Race start was 10:00 and 10:30 for the two corrals, ensuring participants a smooth and clear running lane.  Rain was not in forecast for the day, although we would have wet weather day before and after race. Runners would face headwinds of 15 to 25 miles per hour. Temperature at start was 51 degrees, falling to 47 by race end.

Course runs through 26.2 miles (42.195 km) of winding roads, following Route 135, Route 16, Route 30 and city streets into the center of Boston.

My goal would be simply finishing the race.  This would be a casual jog.  Three weeks earlier I ran 21 miles at a comfortable 8:24 per mile pace.  My wardrobe would be an East Nasty dry fit shirt, a Key West Southernmost Runners visor as I am a member of both groups.  Shorts of green were a saulte to my Hillwood and Bellevue high school teammates.

Armed with disposable camera I was underway.  Here I was on the same course ran by greats Bill Rodgers, Alberto Salazar, John Kelley, Amby Burfoot, Jacqueline Gareau, Joan Benoit and others.  First thought to mind was a quote from Sarah, a local Nashville running coach with Boston knowledge and experience.  Take first half easy as downhill route will dictate a fast tempo.

First three miles were easy and mostly downhill.  I snapped a couple of photos that are now posted on my Facebook page.  5k split was 26:10, 8:26 per mile.  This was about same as 21-miler three weeks earlier. Chanting, “Go East Nasty,” my shirt became a popular rally phrase.

An early impression was availability of aid stations.  Water and Gatorade tables were on both sides of street.  Medical and first aid tents were abundantly stocked. Participants, having qualified for this race, were aware of pace.  There was not much surging or corrals intermingling early.  I was seeded in tenth corral with number 10147.  First six mile surrounded me with numbers between 9,000 and 11,999.

Runners can be an eclectic bunch.  Boston was no exception.  One couple dressed in Revolutionary War costumes. 10k split of 52:30 was 8:26 per mile.

Feeling good and taking photos I passed 15K in 1:18:08 or 8:24 per mile.  Weather was continually windy and cool.

Mobility impaired athletes are granted an early start.  Around 15K I saw one wheelchair bound athlete pushing himself backward through the course, using only his feet.  Another runner was attached and running with his oxygen tank.  These athletes were inspiring. An Atlanta friend was participating as below knee amputee and would finish  in just over six hours.

Half-marathon split 1:49:23 was comfortable, but I felt an adrenaline surge at the Wellesley Wall.  Wellesley College is famous for their cheering and vocal support.  You can hear the thundering din nearly a mile before reaching this energetic crowd.  One sign read,”Runners, kiss me before I graduate.” Looking at 8:21 per mile I was slower than Huntsville qualifying pace.  That was fine by me.  However I was running too fast to keep my four hours plus finish pledge.

25K 2:10:02 was 8:23 per mile.  Soon I knew the famous hills would be here. First hill is Newton Hill. The Newton hills confound contestants (out of proportion to their modest elevation gain) by forcing a late climb after the downhill trend of the race to that point. Many Nashvillians told me these Boston hills were small compared to Warner Park hills.  They were correct.  I began taking more photos and noticing crowds.  Orange slices and water were offered by families and fans along the course. Hamstring became tight for a moment, likely from downhill running.  Another mile or two and all systems were back to normal.

30K 2:39:00 made 8:32 per mile. Heartbreak Hill is an ascent over 0.4 mile of the Boston Marathon course, between the 20 and 21 mile marks, in the vicinity of Boston College. At this point I may have missed the John Kelley statue.  Kelly is a two-time winner at Boston and completed many times. He continued to race at Boston until 1968, when he did not start, and again through 1992, when he at age 84 started his 61st and final Boston Marathon. He completed that Boston Marathon (his 58th finish) in 5:58:00.

Atop Heartbreak is where I would become a small local celebrity.  After cresting Heartbreak Hill a female reporter with local CBS affiliate WBZ-TV ran alongside with microphone in hand.  She asked me to stop, talk about the hardest part of the course and what I thought.  Thankfully the brain to tongue filter was working.  My first answer would have been, “The hardest part for me is dragging a 45-year old, 220 pound frame up that hill.”

What came out of my mouth was chamber of commerce gold. “This race is an awesome event.  Running this race has been a lifelong dream finally come true.  My Nashville friends told me what a fun race this would be.  They could not accurately describe the excitement and history of this event.  This will be my first, and last, Boston Marathon. “ At this point cute female reporter chuckles.  I have my game working today. “The fans and crowd support are fantastic.  This is a well-organized event.  You have a wonderful town here.  I am honored to run this race.”

35K 3:13:04 became an 8:53 pace.  This was the price of celebrity.  “East Nasty” chants were mixed with,”We saw your interview on television.  Great work.”  Then the obligatory high fives.  More photos and high fives induced carpal tunnel syndrome later I was feeling tired .  Temperatures were cooler.  Drafting was no longer effective. I would look for my Nashville friends’ daughter around mile 23 to 24. My hamstring had another 30-second flair, likely from downhill running and cooler temperatures.

My mind recalled stories from runners in the 2007 marathon.  A noreaster breeze and snow storm made that day’s run a struggle.  Today was tropical compared to two years ago.

40K split was 3:50:29.  At this point I am near Fenway Park. Crowds are seven deep on each side.  The second wave of runners are passing me.  I don’t mind.  This would be my last 1.3 miles at Boston, I wanted to enjoy and view every step. I would cover last 1.3 miles in a virtually walking 17:39.

The final stretch down Boylston Street was incredible. Finish was 4:07:39.  The last 400 yards, the sea of runners getting their final burst of energy, was an awesome sight. The public address announcer called names,  including,”Number 10147, Chuck Hargrove from Tennessee.” One second later I hear,”Hey Chucker.” The only person who calls me that is Mike Neal, one of my employees also in Boston.  Mike was cheering for his Brentwood neighbor also running.

My race was over.  A dream was fulfilled.  I felt pretty good, but cold.  I walked through the medical tent seeking something warm to drink.  My eyes and nose detected warm beef broth. Some runners were treated for hypothermia.  Walking through the medical tent I could hear doctors and nurses comparing runners’ body temperatures.  95.9 degrees was not an uncommon reading. Fortunately all runners I saw recovered.

That night Fanuiel Hall was the site for a runners’ appreciation party and reception.  Before the party I grabbed dinner at a local seafood restaurant.  At next table I overheard some runn ers discussing their ace.  A large crystal bowl was table’s centerpiece, and age group trophy belonging to new friend Tom.  Tom won the M65-69 age group title with a 3:16:02 finish.

As mentioned earlier the Boston Marathon was a long overdue, lifetime running goal now a dream fulfilled.  I was awestruck by the history and crowds.  If you get the chance to run Boston, DO IT.  You will not regret your decision.

I do not plan on running Boston again.  Who knows? Perhaps one day, if I am pacing friends through a marathon and my legs feel good, I may push for that M45-49 qualifying time of 3:30.  Should I be fortunate enough to break that time, I will again run Boston.

For now and the forseeable future I shall run with East Nasty friends.  Hopefully I can help those with Boston dreams.

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Runs Leaders...

Nasties - First things first: for the next 6 weeks, we will be running our 6 runs in reverse.  Wednesday 4/29, will be Run #1.  (Almost a perfect 5k)

(For those of you who are new to these runs, if you go to the very bottom of this blog, you will see 7 different runs.  6 weekly routes, and one 2-mile add-on loop.  We go through these runs sequencially.  This week we are running Run #1, but for the next 6 weeks we are running in the opposite direction.)

Run Leaders

Many of us just finished the 1/2 marathon, and don't want to lose all that positive momentum.   I agree...but we need a break.   There are no planned Sunday long runs during May.   But for the summer, many of you wanted to continue those longer weekend runs, to make for an easy transition to a fall 1/2 or full marathon.  Great idea, so here's the deal:  I will be looking for volunteers who are willing to "lead" long runs on Sundays.    More details later - but if this peaks your interest be ready to volunteer!

See you on Wednesday!

We own the road anyway...this makes it official

Mark

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East Nasty For Life!

Congratulations Nasties! Well done Nasties!  On a tough course, and a hot day and we had some great performances.  Post your time and your thoughts below,  I would love to see how everybody ran!

Mark

PS  We are still on for Wednesday nights, more details tomorrow, but for the next six week we are going to run the routes backwards!    Then the runs will change.  (Thanks for everyone who has given their input.)  So Wednesday, April 29, run #1 in reverse.

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Pre-Race Meal...

Hey guys and Annie - Thanks for all the kind words!  It has been a blast for me to slowly brainwash you guys to create a new society of people who actually enjoy running!

Annie is correct, I don't get paid, and it reminds me of an article I read several years ago called "the death of the hobby."  The point of this article was that unless there is an ultimate financial pay-off, people have stopped doing things.  Even many of my best friends, with great intentions, have tried to make East Nasty a money making proposition for me.  My goal with East Nasty is to build a community of runners who support and encourage each other in running and in life, not to create a source of income.  You cannot simultaneously focus on community building and personal gain; one of the two has to take priority. (Ask my friend Randy who started an inner city school...)

A side benefit, of course, is the creation of a platoon of followers who do my bidding.  ("Gee Brain (Drew), what are we going to do tonight?")

One of my main long-term goals is to make East Nasty a self perpetuating group.  To begin this process I am going to give you guys some opportunities to lead.  More details to follow - but as a teaser: many folks have expressed interest in continuing Sunday morning runs - so this may be your chance to sign up to be a run leader!

Pre-Race Reminders/Helpful Hints

1. You don't want to stuff yourself tonight.  Carbo-loading is a bit of a myth.  Eat a normal balanced meal tonight, and then eat something in the morning.  I would suggest some oatmeal, coffee (if you normally drink coffee) and a banana about 2-3 hours before the start.

2. Pick up your East Nasty shirt from Fleet Feet, and tomorrow wear it with pride!

3. Make sure you get to the starting line with plenty of spare time.  The lines for the bathrooms are ridiculous.  Also, if it is chilly in the morning, wear an old shirt that you are willing to part with, and throw it to the side of the road as your body warms up.

4. Hang out after the race at the family reunion area under the "E" for a Nasty group photo.

5. If you are planning on running for over 80 minutes, take in calories during the race!  Go to the fleet feet booth at the expo and buy yourself a gel, shot bloks or sport beans.  "Eat" these calories about 45-50 minutes into the race.

6. Drink water/cytomax every 15 minutes.

7. Did I forget anything?  Post a comment!

Good luck!  Trust your training, and remember that everyone is hurting during the last 3 miles.

Mark

In place of an ENOW...

Since the half-marathon is upon us and I am having stress dreams about showing up on Saturday with no laces in my shoes, there is no East Nasty of the Week this week.  But you didn’t think I would let a week go by without posting, did you? So to begin, how about a little Chuck potpourri?

First off, check out this informative and helpful PowerPoint from Chuck Fogg.  He includes some nutritious recipes, as well as a bunch of stuff about enzymes that I didn’t really read.  It’s not that the information isn’t GOOD and TRUE – it’s more of a reflection on the fact that I am an imbecile.

Next, let’s hear it for our own Chuck Hargrove, who finished the Boston Marathon in 4:07!  If you want to see this Nasty in action, check him out at 9:16.

Or, if you prefer the photo version of Chuck, here are some still shots.  I feel compelled to include a quote from the man himself: “I am not playing with myself, ha ha.  I stashed the camera in my waistband, and spent much of race taking photos.”

Just so you know.

Finally, a few months back, I was talking to our fearless leader, Mark Miller, about training this group of runners.  He does not get paid.  It’s not his job.  And yet every week for the past 4 months, he has shown up and coached us.  He has faithfully planned routes.  He has provided challenges for the Fasty Nasties, and encouragement for the… well, the people like me.  And he does it because he loves it.

Lucky us.

Mark, we are all so grateful.  Thank you for being our coach, for all of the time and thought and effort you have put into this training season, and for being basically the coolest guy any of us know.  See you at the finish line.

-Annie P.

Wednesday RunsMark
Post-Race Party / Shirts / Numbers

Nasties - Wednesday, we'll have a nice easy Riverside run.  (Run #6 at the bottom.) 4.55 miles

4 Announcements:

First, and most important: East Nasty Post-1/2 Marathon Extravaganzathon Party at Micah Puncochar's!    622 McFerrin.  If you have ever run the extra 2-mile loop on Wednesday night, you have passed Micah's house.    ***The party starts at 7:00, everybody needs to bring a snack and we are asking a $5 donation if you are planning on enjoying adult beverages.

Second, and almost as important, shirts are in!  They are $20.  I'll have them on Wednesday, if you cannot get your shirt at that time, you need to head over to Fleet Feet.

Third, there are several people who, for whatever reason, cannot run the race.  Purchasing a number right now would cost you upwards of $100 and there are no refunds,  so buying someone elses number would save you (and them) a lot of money.

Here is the stupid part: No one else can pick up your number - so even if you sell your number to another participant, you must pick it up yourself. In fact, even if you are planning on running the race - but for some reason cannot make it to the expo, no one else can pick up your number.

If you would like to sell your number, or if you are looking for a number, post a comment below.  Hopefully, we can facilitate this process.

Last - Right now inaugural ENOW Chuck Hargrove is running the Boston Marathon He ran 1:49 for the first 1/2, and is charging toward the finish as I write.  (Ryan Hall also finished 3rd overall with a time of 2:09.40, but who cares about that guy!)

See you on Wednessday.

Mark

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Last Sunday Run !

Well, this is it.  Our last 1/2 marathon training run; by 10:00 next Saturday morning, all of us will be finished with the Country Music 1/2 Marathon. What are we doing this week?  We are meeting back at Shelby Bottoms at 9 o'clock for a short race pace run.  We'll jog 1-2 miles, run 3-5 miles at goal pace, and then jog 1-2 miles.  While you are running at goal pace, pay close attention to how it feels.  Why?  Because the race is hilly, it always seems like we are going up or down, so during the race we need to run by feel and not by pace.

Your up hill miles will be slower than goal pace, and your down hill miles will be faster.  Working hard up the hills, and then using the down hills to recover, is not a good way to race.  You should run with a pretty steady  effort level nice the whole time.  (Well, until the last 2 miles when you start hammering!) 

If you know how fast you want to run the race, but you don't know what that pace would be, try the MacMillan Running Calculator.  This is a pretty handy site that will instantly calculate your pace - or you can type in a recent race performance and it will give projected times for other distances.  (Try to ignore the cheesy music...)

Finally, what should you run this week?  Not much.  Probably about 40% of what you normally do, and almost all of it should be SLOW.  Here is a sample schedule for next week:

Monday - off

Tuesday - 3 miles

Wednesday (East Nasty) - 4.5

Thursday - 2

Friday - 2

Saturday - 13.1

Block out your schedule for the Saturday night post-race East Nasty party!  Look for details coming soon!  You won't want to miss it!

See you Sunday!

Mark

Wednesday 4-15-09 - Tapering

Many of us are racing the Country Music Marathon or 1/2 marathon on April 25, and have put in a lot of hard work over the last 3 months.  When we are this close to a big race, remember this: there is nothing you can do to make you run faster, but there is a lot that you can do to make you run slower.   What does that mean?  Basically, your body has an adaptation period of about 7-10 days.  Meaning that you do not receive the physiological benefits of a workout for that amount of time.   We are about 10 days away from race day.

So here are the applications:

1) No more long runs.  Your body does not have time to recover from a long run, so you would experience all the fatigue of a long run - without having time to receive the benefits.  This weekend should be a medium long run (6-9 miles), with a portion of that run (3-5 miles) at 1/2 marathon pace.  

2) Weekly mileage reduced.  Two weeks before a race, your mileage should be 70% of normal, and one week before a race, it should be 40% of usual.  

3) Workouts shortened, but not eliminated.   It is not a bad idea to do a short workout next Tuesday.   Maybe 2 miles of repeats at race pace.  All other runs should be easy.

4) Rest and hydration  are priorities.   April 25th could be 40 degrees and raining, or 75 degrees and sunny.   We're used to the cold stuff, but a hot day will throw our bodies for a loop.  Either way - we need to go into the race well hydrated, so drink more water than you think you need...starting now! Drinking lots of water the morning  of the race is not hydrating oneself!!

Run slowly for the next two Wednesdays.  Enjoy the loop into downtown! (Run #5)  Next week we'll talk about carb loading, myth or reality?!!?

Mark

PS Remember to bring a change of clothes and some cash for 3 Crow.

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Bongo to Bongo! 8 a.m. !!!!

This Sunday we are running a course that marathon trainees have been running for years in Nashville: Bongo-to-Bongo.  We will be meeting at the East Nashville Bongo java - run past the Belmont Bongo java - do the Clifton loop (all the way to Granny White), then run back to the East side.   WE ARE STARTING  AT 8 a.m. THIS SUNDAY!!!

See you this Sunday!

Mark

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Wednesday 4/8/09: Llamas with Hats

This Wednesday for the East Nasties is Run #4.  This Wednesday for coach Miller (that's me when I'm at school) is a track meet. Hargrove and Drew will be around to get everbody started - but you may want to check out the map before the run just in case. "Track Meet?" you ask.   I'm a high school track coach and teacher. ( I teach math; in fact I consider myself more of a teacher than a coach.)  So even though track meets occasionally disrupt my evening plans (they last forever - it probably won't end until 8:30), every fall and spring afternoon I get paid to hang out with kids and run, so I'm not complaining!

Now many of you are thinking "I couldn't be paid enough to be surrounded by 14-19 year olds all day long".  And while there are some things that are annoying about that age, there is also a lot to enjoy.  Starting with this: high school boys want to make everything fun, and that includes running.  A 10 mile run with adults may include conversations about work, the state of the economy or the most recent running injury; a 10-mile run with teenage boys includes lots of Monty Python quotes,  acting out llamas with hats and other bizarre Youtube cartoons (google Charlie the Unicorn) or quoting Star Wars while jumping through "portals" and making Chewbacca sounds.  Oh yes, and girls - there's always a lot of talk about girls.   A workout with adults includes heart rate monitors and technical clothes; at school, our workouts always end with shirts off (regardless of temperature) and the last interval is always run as hard as possible.

So in that spirit, enjoy not only this run, but the chance to make it fun!  It's not a chance to talk about the world's problems and get in better shape, it's a chance to quote Dumb and Dumber and laugh with each other for 45 minutes... Run fast if you want to, or slow down and chat with your friends.  Just have fun!

Remember, bring a change of clothes for 3 Crow -and I hope to meet you there later on to claim my winnings!

Mark

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Sunday 4/5/09 - Long Run / Bracket Madness / Shirts

Nasties - This is the last week where we will  start at Centennial Park and run the course.  This week's run will take us through the first 11 miles of the course, (from the round-about: down Division - to 11th, 11th to Charlotte) then back to Centennial Park via Charlotte.  The entire run will be about 13.1 miles!

The official website and course map has finally been updated.  We won't run the final 2 miles as part of our training, so you may want to get out there and run those on your own.   The race course takes us up from bicennential park and over the Woodland street bridge, so there is one last sneaky uphill in the last 2 miles that you may want to investigate!!

Training note:  It is always better to be a little bit undertrained rather than a little bit overtrained.  Meaning, that you should cut this run short if you are feeling consistently worn-out and fatigued!  Next week is our last long run, and we're running Bongo-to-bongo, which is 14 miles.   So even if you cut this week's run a little bit short, you will have another chance for an overdistance run.  (Meaning a training run that is longer than the race distance.)

Shirts: I am going to place the shirt order on Monday.   Sorry I have had to postpone the order several times, but things didn't go as smoothly as I had hoped!  (Do things ever go as smoothly as the plan??!!)

Bracket Update:  Going into the final weekend, here is a list of the folks that are still in the hunt, and their picks that are still capable of winning.  (And once Michigan State and UNC win, it will be down to me and LaMont.)

David Harris - 95 (UNC)
Erick Snyder - 89 (UNC)
Erica Tober - 87 (UNC)
Mary Jane Peck - 87
Mark Miller - 86 (MSU / UNC)
Paul Clayton - 85
Annie Parsons - 82
Christy Maynard - 81 (UNC)
Hunter Lane - 81
Jim Schwan - 80
Josh Gruner - 79 (UCONN / UNC)
Aman Khapoya - 79 (MSU)
Amberlie - 61 (UCONN)
See you Sunday morning, 9:00.
Mark
Wednesday 4/1/09

Well, I forgot to update the blog saying that the shirt ordering has been postponed until this Thursday.  Sorry!  But, I do appreciate all of you guys actually listening to the directions and posting your orders on the blog!  (I'm a high school teacher so I'm not used to people actually following directions...) Bottom line: The shirts should be in this Wednesday so we can try them on before we order.  

The East Nasty Board of directors has been reviewing the polling data that we have been receiving on each of the runs, so keep voting.  The runs have been getting pretty good marks if I do say so myself!  Also this Wednesday, Drew should have an update on the East Nasty "for entertainment purposes only" Bracket Challenge.  

See you on Wednesday!  

Mark

PS  If you are new to the East Nasty group - be sure that you bring a change of clothes and join us at 3 Crow for a post-run beverage!

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